joythebaker podcast ep 22

The Joy the Baker podcast gets AWKWARD.  More awkward that usual.  This week Joy and Tracy tackle awkward conversations.  Let’s discuss chin hairs, asking for a raise, letting a dude down easy, and how to break up with your hairstylist.  You know… just a few of the awkward conversations that we really don’t want to have.

Did Cooper break up with his hairstylist after his first cut?  He had a cookie.  Probably not.

Joy had an awkward Brunch Date that involved a dude exposing a rogue chin hair.  Ugh.  Whhhhyyyyy!?

joythebaker podcast ep 22

Tracy sent a monkey mail.  Let a monkey talk atcha.  Sure.  Thank you Career Builder.

joythebaker podcast ep 22

How do you send food back at a restaurant?  With confidence and conviction.  For real.

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42 comments on “Awkward Conversations

  1. Yay! Now to decide whether to listen now or save it for tomorrow…

  2. Sophie Oct 13, 2011

    Dear Joy and Tracy,

    I have to make a request. Can you please have more than one podcast a week? Maybe not even official pod casts, but just taping your phone conversations or reading funny emails out loud? Last week I began a daunting project at work — hunting down 600 PDFs from the Internet and saving them using a ghastly naming convention. Fun stuff, huh? I have read Joy the Baker for years, but had never listened to the podcasts. Suffering through intense boredom, eye strain, and finger cramping I decided to lighten my day by starting with your first podcast. By the end of the week I had listened to all of them, time was flying by, PDFs were found, and I laughed inappropriately loud in my cubicle too many times to count. How wonderful is it to have girl talk in your cube all day at work?! I felt like I was chatting with my best friends. However, I have now run out of your podcasts and still have 300+ PDFs to go. So would you mind ever so much creating more of your wonderful, funny, and quirky podcasts so I can finish my work? I also miss having you as my friends in my cube with me, so that would be a wonderful addition as well :)

    You guys are the best!


    • joythebaker Oct 17, 2011

      oh sophie! you’re just the greatest! i am working on another podcast… stay tuned! ps. sorry about all those PDFs. blaaaahhh..

  3. Amanda Barkey Oct 13, 2011

    Wow, everyone needs Joy to confront a guy for them I think… ‘so thats where were going to chill.’ And the waiter situation? Like. I WISH I was ever that assertive! Great podcast, good advice! :) PS I have to say I went to career builder to check out the monk-e-maker thingy that Tracy was talking about while I was listening to the podcast and there are a couple of sound effects that come on when you open the website and when I heard the monkey one I was like ok,ok…. then there is a ice cube clinking,drink slurping sound and I totally thought that was YOU two… I was like wowzers, these two are sure drinking alot during this podcast! ha!

  4. Is that why I’m obsessed with my hair and getting a good cut? Because I am a Leo? I’m so glad there’s a good reason for this obsession. Your chin hair discussion really cracked me up. Just what I needed today.

  5. Dominique Oct 13, 2011

    Oh my gosh. One time I ordered vegetable soup (Im a vegetarian) so i asked beforehand, if the soup had chicken broth, the waitress said no. I get the soup, and it clearly has chicken broth as well as chunks of raw ice burg lettuce through out. It was extremely gross, so I sent it back. Next thing I know, the chef comes out from the kitchen, SCREAMING at me about how the soup is fine, la de da. Some really manly large women. So I left and then as i was walking out she was like, “never come back”. Definitely the worst way that could have possibly went….

  6. Wow, I am reminded to check my chin hair situation next time I pass a mirror.

  7. P.S. I, too, will listen to you girls while I work and occasionally I’m all, “Yeah, I know what you mean.” Then, I stop and look around me to see if anyone is seeing me talking outloud to a podcast. Geez!

  8. Becky Oct 13, 2011

    So, I tried to text someone to tell them to “listen to this podcast” and “podcast” auto correted to “pervert.” Now that’s awkward!

  9. maija Oct 13, 2011

    I “broke up” with my hairdresser because I moved to another part of town, grew my hair out for a while, and then when I finally needed a haircut, I went to a salon closer to my house (I don’t own a car so this was for a good reason). Awkward moment several years later: we run into each other in the same aisle of the warehouse part of Ikea & as I passed by her, I suddenly realized where I knew her from…

    Oh, and speaking of chin hairs, there is a receptionist on another floor in my building that has a few gnarly ones. Every time I go to that floor or am in the elevator, I wonder why she is cool with them. I guess that is the line I draw at self-acceptance. Some people have different lines.

  10. Laurie Oct 13, 2011

    I feel like I went to therapy today! All the things you talked about in your podcast were at the very front of my brain and now, I am just CRUISIN’ through the day! Joy, you said, “If you’ve made it CLEAR that you can be a hook up machine, then, what the heck?” Well said, Joy, well said.

  11. Hilary Oct 13, 2011

    I LOVE that you gals mentioned monk-emails! My best friend and I randomly send them to each other all the time and they are HAHlarious! Looove your podcast! :)

  12. Jayne Oct 13, 2011

    Joy and Tracy, I have a random question. Probably because I heard about the work-related stuff you spoke about. See, I am a rather… um.. clumsy and scatter-brained person. I make mistakes ALL the time. Just this week alone, I made about 3 mistakes at work that will cost the company some money (a few hundred). In the past 2 months, I made about a total of 5. I’m not talking about tiny errors like typos and all. I’m talking about misprinting cheques, accidentally renewing company phone lines that we intend to cancel resulting in having to pay for cancellation fees, banked in cheques that are not due causing a fine, mishearing something that leads to misunderstanding etc etc. I feel stupid. I think I’m pretty much a failure right now. And I’m seriously thinking of quitting to start fresh at another place. But at this point, I have no choice of doing that. So I’m stuck here everyday thinking of how silly I look in front of my colleagues and my boss. It’s weighing down. I keep trying to be very careful and make sure I don’t make any mistakes but they keep happening! Argh! Frustrated. So there, an awkward situation which I have no solution for. Sorry. End rant.

    • Have confidence in you work! The energy you put in is what you get out. If you go in with the idea you are gonna mess up, you will! So just relax, regroup and work hard! You can do it!

    • joythebaker Oct 17, 2011

      hang in there jayne! and ask for help from your coworkers if you need it. you got this, girl!

  13. thanks for giving me something to look forward to on my run this morning….realizing that my job IS all about awkward conversations….”you have chlamydia, you need to lose weight” best to be honest in most situations :)

  14. Chin hairs! DEFinately an awkward sitch. That’s when I’m thankful for my 3 sisters who never miss them…because, let’s be honest, if those babies keep growing, it’s only a matter of time before the boyfriend/husband finds them and tries to yank them out. Not that that’s happened to me…

    eh hem.

    I agree with Sophie- more podcasts would be definately help pass the time while I sit in my silent office doing mindless tasks. These podcasts keep getting funnier and funnier!

  15. I would just like to let you know that awesome ladies younger that you both get rando crazy hairs on their faces that shouldn’t be there. Like ladies born in the 90s. I might be one of the those ladies. I might not be. You’ll never know.

    So rock it.

  16. I had a terrible tomato and avocado sandwich this week. It was just really bland and flavorless. I didn’t want to eat it, but there was nothing wrong with it, per se, so I didn’t send it back. I know you ladies say to send it back if you don’t like it, but what’s the protocol there? And, most importantly, do I have to pay for another meal if I reorder? Because I don’t want to pay twice.

    • joythebaker Oct 17, 2011

      that’s really tough ronnie. it’s almost like… if it’s not completely gross, you can’t send it back. tough. it seems like you have to suffer through some sitches.

  17. Jillian Oct 16, 2011

    Ladies, you are doing an amazing job and I love listening to you every week! Even my boyfriend is starting to enjoy listening! I really love when Tracy does her Oprah impersonation. It always makes me think of this Oprah video, which cracks me up every time!

  18. Trine from Oslo Oct 17, 2011

    Just leaving a comment to say that I looooove your podcast (and blogs). Every week I go away to a different city for work, leaving friends and boyfriend at home. As I have a job where 99% of the people I see are guys (not complaining about that btw), you girls are my only source of true girltalk during the week!
    Somtimes i check iTunes several times a week in the odd case you suddenly decide to publish more than once I week (which I know you can’t cause obviously you have lives outside iTunes). So keep up the good work!
    Oh, and a question: have you ever used food to make an awkward situation less awkvard? Like giving your hairdresser cookies to get her to do what you want?

    • joythebaker Oct 17, 2011

      i run late a lot… i always bring cookies. totally works!

  19. When I heard you are doing a Halloween podcast next, I got super excited! I listen to your podcast every Friday night while making homemade pizza and drinking wine. Anyway I got super excited about the Halloween podcast because Halloween is my absolute favorite holiday, and it also happens to be my birthday. Halloween is not my favorite because it is my birthday but because it is just awesome. Every year my husband and I throw a Halloween/birthday party and we always request that people come in costume. Every year a few people bleep and moan about dressing up for the party and some don’t come in costume at all and the party ends up not being as fun. So my question for you is how do I get people to come to the Halloween party in costume and how can I make the party more fun?

  20. Kristen Oct 18, 2011

    So I got to the part in the podcast about sending back food on a date. I’ve totally done that. And it was our 2nd date. Awkward. Like you guys, when I go out I like to really enjoy the food that someone else made because I enjoy my own cooking. (and I think most other people do too!) Well… this chicken that I ordered was… ugh. It was dry, cooked without salt and pepper and served with box pasta salad. I couldn’t handle it so I sent it back. And he was impressed! He liked that I spoke up and voiced my opinion (I sandwhiched it too!) We dated for a while after that, then he moved… I think there’s already been a podcast about that. Back to the point…! If I don’t like the food, I have to let them know. I’m by no means a superior cook, but you never know when the chef is on the fence about dishes, presentation, etc. Feedback always leads to improvement, right?

  21. I love Halloween and want to have a great party this year but since we’re getting married five days later there’s only so much we can do. Hoping to be a corpse bride though, before I’m a real bride.

  22. Jeanine Oct 18, 2011

    I was wondering if anyone else in the Boston area listens to this podcast. This podcast is one of my guilty pleasures. Let’s get a fun group together! Anyone? Joy and Tracy, can you help?
    Thank you. Love the podcast!

  23. Pippa Oct 18, 2011

    I totally related to this podcast as I had to quit my job two days ago. Worst part? I was forced to do it over TEXT — which, in my opinion, is the worst form of communication out there! Especially for something like quitting your job…right? I really wanted to do it in person but the person I work for got suspicious when I asked if I could come early to talk with them and told me to tell them straight out. It took four text messages to say it all and I felt so lame. But at least I wasn’t planning on doing it that way. Awkwardest text conversation I’ve ever had. Booyah.

  24. Oh my god. I have some very prominent freckles on my face–so prominent that I refer to them as moles (even though technically, moles are raised, larger than the ones I have, hairy, etc.). It’s happened many times where someone will be like, “Hey, you have chocolate on your face…” and then come up to my face and try to wipe it off… only to realize that it’s a mole.

    Yea. Super hilarious sometimes. But not the business most of the time. I think I’ve come to embrace it though. My face is like a chocolate chip cookie…

  25. Mathusalah Oct 22, 2011

    Sooo, here goes: I was working at a restaurant and my bosses/the owners were in a long term relationship. It was a small place and everyone was pretty close. Already sounds ominous, eh? Long story short-my male boss hit on me HARD and I had to call and quit by telling my female boss that I couldn’t work there anymore and WHY. When the phone was ringing I felt like I was going to PASS OUT from dread and lack of blood flow to my…things that need blood so I don’t pass out. Ohhhhhhh, it was terrible. I wanted to crawl into a hole and die. Follow up- she left him and the restaurant. Ugg.

  26. Mathusalah Oct 22, 2011

    p.s. I looove Halloween! (Not just because it’s my birthday…) You can be ANYONE or ANYTHING you want for the day. I my opinion, we should feel free to do this every day we are blessed to be on this crazy earth. Word.

  27. Kaianna Oct 23, 2011

    real life awkward moment here: stupid boyfriend edition. I have a happy trail. I take care of it. whatever. anyway, on that stupid day where the hair’s too short to shave but still noticeable, mister right over here points to my stomach as I’m changing and yells “WOAH! YOU’VE GOT A TRAIL! YOU’RE LIKE A MAN!”

    needless to say, we aren’t together anymore

  28. On the chin hair thing — not an Eastern European thing AT ALL. (I’m Russian living in the Czech Republic). Eastern European women are hyper feminine, and would never allow chin hairs. Dunno what’s wrong with this girl, she needs to pluck. Awkward.

    Love the Podcast!!! <3

  29. Elizabeth Nov 13, 2011


    I spent the summer in Jerusalem, where I missed a number of summer BBQs at home, but you two helped me miss them less as I was able to vicariously enjoy them through your podcasts. My boyfriend of 2.5 years broke up this fall, and listening to you both talk about the joys and disappointments of REAL LIFE has totally helped me work through it. And I’m totally planning to make coconut butter soon. I didn’t think I could love you all more, until I heard you talk about Firefly and BSG on the Ruts episode! Sooooo good. Finally, I’m currently eating bacon-kale-potato hash with eggs, a modified version of Joy’s Spinach and Potato Breakfast Hash, and it’s delicious, and a great way for Tracy to get out of her crumpet rut!

    Thanks so much for everything; keep up the great work!

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