In this episode, Tsh talks to her friend Shaun Groves, a musician and songwriter, and also the guy who leads blog trips on behalf of Compassion International. He’s also wildly known for his hair.

shaun groves

Tex-Mex – manna from heaven. But #nothealthy.

chuy's tex mex

You can learn to play guitar via YouTube! Only a few options.

Some books Shaun mentions:

The High Price of Materialism

the high price of materialism

Alone Together

alone together

Fables of Fortune

fables of fortune

…and Shaun will be in Uganda with some of our favorite podcast buds! Follow the trip here.

Compassion International Uganda

How do you handle the social media question with your kids? What about talking with celebrities? And what music did you love when you were a kid?




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13 comments on “First Draft

  1. SuseFish Jan 24, 2014

    Oh my goodness, I think I speak for everyone when I say I’m in love (sorry Tsh, not you 😉 But seriously, love what Shaun has to say about technology… love what he says about everything actually. Great guy, fab podcast. Thanks Tsh xx

  2. Holly Jan 25, 2014

    Wait…can he be a regular? Pretty please?

    “You’re sort of my high priest of simple living.”

  3. alusru Feb 4, 2014

    Really enjoyed this! I ditto him being a regular! Great conversation. Thanks Tsh!

  4. I agree, he is a great guest with a refreshing take on the world.

  5. Ohmygosh, I loved this podcast! You guys had me laughing more times than I can count. It was like eavesdropping on the most interesting convo ever.

    Funny thing: my 8yo came home from school shortly after I had wrapped up the podcast and said “Mom, did you know Justin Bieber got arrested?”. :)
    I cleared my throat and launched into a lesson on how he’s just a person too even though he’s famous and people make mistakes…Sound familiar?
    Thanks again.

  6. Well this was GREAT. Guys, I’m agnostic and I loved it. (Totally regular listener, btw). But really, he’s FANTASTIC. Bring him back, on the regular!

  7. I hope that wasn’t awkward that I mentioned my being agnostic. I really just meant that I found this so relatable. Meant to be a compliment. :)

  8. Breeanna Feb 21, 2014

    Oh Tsh!!!!! Can you have him on more?!?

  9. So loved this. New fan. I can’t wait to follow up and check out all the show notes. My commute today was far more listening to you than the silly radio. Would have liked to heard some of shauns music. Will go looking for it. Thx again!!! These trips sound amazing!!

  10. I’ve just recently started listening to these and this was by far my favorite – but I’m a fan of Shaun and his work for Compassion. I finally got to meet him last year at an Amy Grant concert : ) By the way…Amy was my first concert, too! I think you and Shaun should podcast together regularly – like Phil Vischer and Skye Jethani.

    my 9 year old has been begging for instagram lately and I enjoyed hearing what you two had to say about it.

    As for your kids meeting your Compassion kids…they will see it through kids’ eyes and it will be ok. My family went to Thailand in March and we met Orm – our sponsored child. We also spent some time in a Karen refugee camp in Burma and my kids had fun playing with the kids there – as kids should. I don’t really want my 7 and 9 year olds to fully understand poverty yet. I want them to be aware and to realize how blessed we are, but more than anything I wanted them to connect with kids who are special to our family.

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