I was so honored to talk to my friends Jeremy and Jessica Courtney for this episode. Along with their two young kiddos, they live and work in Iraq heading up Preemptive Love, an organization that wants to eradicate the backlog of Iraqi children waiting in line for lifesaving heart surgery in pursuit of peace between communities at odds.


But also? They’re regular parents and a lot of fun to chat with.




An update from Jeremy since the recording of this episode:

“As we recorded this podcast, a collection of militant megalomaniacs, thugs, and disaffected men seeking a way out of poverty were advancing just a few hours away in what would be known as the “Fall of Mosul” (Iraq’s second largest city), setting off mass killings and the most intense news cycle on Iraq the world has seen since 2003.

“Our family is safe. But the children we serve across the country are not safe. We have no intention of pulling out of Iraq. The situation has become urgent for many of Iraq’s children, so we are still here providing surgeries, saving lives. If there is any future for Iraq, it has to be in learning to love neighbors and enemies alike. So we are redoubling our efforts in this life we call ‘preemptive love.’

“We are grateful to Tsh and the Art of Simple community for your years of friendship and support!”


Wanna host the Courtneys while they’re in the States? They’d love to hear from you! Jeremy’s on Twitter at @jcourt, of you can email him at jeremy @ preemptivelove . org (remove the spaces).

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6 comments on “Preemptive Love

  1. Laurie Jul 19, 2014

    I can’t tell you how much I loved this show. I’m a big fan of your podcasts. Keep up the great work, Tsh.

  2. This podcast is exactly why I love following you and learning from you. Thank you for bringing this into my home this morning. Thank you for expanding my world a bit (even though I type from bed:) Tsh, you are doing great things and they are making a great impact! Thanks to PLC as well
    Inspired in Spokane, WA

  3. Super duper interesting and awesome episode! The Courtneys are amazing! Thx Tsh! :)

  4. Harmony Aug 8, 2014

    I keep thinking about this family since I heard the podcast. I see there was an update that they were safe but curious if that is still the case as the threat to Christians has intensified.

    • I was wondering that as well and saw he had a twitter link in the update, looks like they are still fine.

  5. willowblythe Aug 29, 2014

    Hey, Tsh, this podcast really moved me…so much so that I contacted the Courtney’s and arranged an event at my church. Just wondering if there is any way to tell your readers about this event, so that readers from my area can have an opportunity to see and hear the Courtney’s in person. Thanks again for using your podcast to broaden my perspective on the world.

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